Question:
What determines if a beer is a stout, lager, or ale?
Dozey
2012-12-13 13:54:40 UTC
The superficial differences between stouts and lagers/ales are obvious, but what is the actual difference in the brewing process that determines which kind of beer will be created? Thanks!
Five answers:
anonymous
2012-12-13 14:48:02 UTC
You've got some good answers already.



Ale - Typically fermented warmer, 60F-70F sometimes above for specific varieties.



Lager - Typically fermented colder 40F-55F



But to clear something up all yeast ferments more aggressively the hotter it gets, right up until the temp kills it Somewhere around 110F. The varieties of yeast selected for specific type of beer has to do with the flavor profile it produces at certain temperatures and/or how low a temperature it will still remain active at. Lager yeast will remain active in the 40s but most ale yeast will go dormant as you drop into the mid 50s. However, lager yeast still becomes slow to ferment at the low temps lagers are typically fermented at. So as a brewer you must add (pitch) more yeast for a lager than you would for a similar ale and you must also allow for a longer fermentation period. In addition to taking longer to ferment lager yeast is also slower to fall to the bottom once fermentation is complete so following fermentation there is a "lagering" period that is needed to clear the beer, otherwise it would be cloudy. Lager is a German word meaning "to store" and is used because before refrigeration lager beers would be stored for several months in caves that stayed at a consistently low temp.



Lagers are typically known for their clean flavor profile. That could be considered good or bad, depending on your taste. That's because generally the colder the fermentation temperature the fewer byproducts a yeast produces. In ales, however, some of those byproduct flavors are desirable. They can be flowery, fruity, clove, anise, banana, buttered popcorn. Hefeweizens often have a slight clove and sometimes noticeable banana flavor. In that style those flavors are preferred. In most other styles they are not preferred and are usually considered a flaw.



A lager yeast fermented at an ale yeast temperature would produce way more off flavors than the ale yeast would. An ale yeast fermented at lager yeast temps would not fully ferment the wort and there would be a lot of left over sugars in the beer resulting in syrupy-sweet beer and less alcohol than was intended.



Most, but not all, stouts are ales. They are made in mostly the same way that a pale ale would be made only roasted malts are used which changes the color and adds coffee like or sometimes chocolate like flavors.



Interesting fact: Guinness Stout is often considered to be a strong beer, but the alcohol content is around 4%abv and it has about as many calories as a Bud Light. Color is not everything when it comes to beer.
eyeofjake
2012-12-13 22:02:32 UTC
Ok, there are several things that go into a beer that makes the difference.



Lagers and ales are the first step here. Ale yeast ferments at the bottom of the vessel and ale yest ferments at the top. Ale yeast can also operate at warmer temps (around 60-70F) while lager yeast likes it cold (around 50F).



The color (graded in degrees lovibond) is determined by the boil, the malt, and length of fermentation. Ales and lagers tend to be on the lighter end up but can also be dark. Stouts and porters are the darkest. Dark beers use roasted malt like chocolate malt. Your lighter beers use lighter malt like crystal malt.



The use of yeast is not restricted to a particular beer. I ferment stouts, porters, all sorts of beers with ale and lager yeast all the time. I get different flavors each time and that's the joy of it.
damnyankeega
2012-12-13 21:57:50 UTC
The big difference is between lager and ale.



Ales are fermented at a higher temperature with top fermenting yeast.



Lagers are fermented at lower temperatures with bottom fermenting yeast. Additionally, lagers are stored and aged longer.



Stout is a form of ale that can be brewed relatively quickly.



A pilsner is a form of lager that is pretty difficult to brew and is very refined.
Akudo
2012-12-13 22:35:11 UTC
I believe what deyermines, is the strain used in the process of fermentatiom.
Ryan
2012-12-14 01:44:23 UTC
There are a lot of kinds of beer. A lot. Look into it.


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